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PostSubject: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeSat Nov 02, 2013 10:25 am

This is the statement I'm discussing about for my Dutch debating exam:

Everyone should earn the same salary!

Leave your opinions and arguments below Very Happy Also, to make it more of a discussion, quote other arguments and disprove them :3

Pro:
-Economic equality, people can buy the same stuff, and no need to steal from the rich, cuz everyone is as rich as one another.
-There won't be different classes based upon whether you're rich or poor.
-People will take different jobs, not just those that pay well. You can pick any job you like now, and no need to worry about the money. Pretty ideal.

Con:
-It isn't quite honest. Some people work a lot harder than others, some people do a much more useful job than others (where entertainment is not useful, cuz, well, it isn't).
-People who have studied way harder should be rewarded with extra salary, otherwise most people will go for the easy job with low to zero education.
-Unpopular but necessary jobs, that now pay well, will disappear, because if it isn't for the money, there is no point for a person to take that job. People are of a lazy nature, only some showoffs will work harder for no reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeMon Nov 04, 2013 3:18 pm

Soooo.... Debating the merits of communism? It works if everyone cooperates

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PostSubject: Re: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeMon Nov 04, 2013 5:23 pm

Yveltal the BOLT wrote:
Soooo.... Debating the merits of communism? It works if everyone cooperates
This is not the same as communism.

You have those green dudes who'd take the s*** jobs either way just to save our planet!
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PostSubject: Re: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeMon Nov 04, 2013 8:32 pm

Im on Cons . Ur reasons are clear enough
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PostSubject: Re: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeFri Nov 08, 2013 12:27 pm

Democracy>Communism
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PostSubject: Re: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeSun Nov 10, 2013 8:28 am

Arieon wrote:
Democracy>Communism
Nuff said
Because..? Democracy is such a good system? One need 51% to be elected, so 49% may not even be happy with it.

Also:
It is stated in the OP that hard workers deserve a bonus. Take a look at those bank directors and sporters. They get huge boni for doing what? Taking our money and whining over a loss? Makes complete sense. And they aren't much of a hard worker either.

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PostSubject: Re: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeMon Nov 11, 2013 3:21 am

Arieon wrote:
Democracy>Communism
Nuff said
Communism is an economic system, not what you might think it is because of eg. Soviet-Union (which was not "purely" communistic in the first place.)

If you wanted to draw that comparison, you should compare communism to capitalism, but capitalism will never guarantee you legitimate democracy either, and at least in my opinion capitalism has gotten out of control so badly it ain't even funny.
When people behind corporations cannot be sued for anything but money, and breaking the law becomes a mere business decision, something awfully, awfully wrong.

There are many kinds of Communism, but I believe there has only been one truly communistic state, which was called "Free Territory". They all had their own houses, cars, etcetera, but banks, shops and s*** like that were owned by everyone.

I don't know if I agree with the original post, at least fully. While it is a good idea to seek for equality payment wise, it sort of makes no sense that some professions take a lot of more dedication, are a lot of more stressful, dangerous and flat out hard. Then again, I guess money does not have to be the motivator either, but I don't know really.

After all the Earth has enough to fill everyone's need, but not everyone's greed.
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PostSubject: Re: Debate #1    Debate #1   Icon_minitimeMon Nov 11, 2013 2:39 pm

Enemite never ceases to amaze me I love you But money does have to be a motivator, because without money, you're nowhere anymore. Yo have to pay to eat, to live, to die. So the s*** jobs must pay well so the tough work gets done and people can live a nice way. It's a shame though, that money has become more important than our planet. Only this makes me think it's a good thing if everyone would earn the same salary. Eventually, through revolutions and all that, money will disappear and we can take all we want, without it harmin' anyone. But yeah, utopia got its name for a reason: it ain't possible. Mainly because too many think this way. For now, we can only do what the glorious leaders of the precious countries decide, because who knows better what's good than them?

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